Meeting Summary - 05/12/2025 DSWG Meeting

Grid Monitor AI | Posted 05/12/2025

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▶️1 - Introduction & Anti-trust Admonition

▶️2 - Self-Provisioning for Load Resources with Under-Frequency Relays (UFRs)

RTCB-LoadResource_Self-Provisioning_DSWG_05122025_Final.pdf

  • Anthony Pataray, from demand integration at ERCOT, led the discussion.
  • The main focus was to address numerous questions from QSEs about self-provisioning for load resources.
  • A slide deck was created to explain the workings and reasoning behind self-provisioning for load resources.

▶️2.1 - Introduction to Self-Provision

  • Self provisioning allows QSEs to cover their ancillary service position with load resources operating with a UFR.
  • If a QSE has an obligation, it can telemeter the self-provision amount, ensuring AS obligations are met in real time.
  • Self provision is distinct from self arrangement.
  • Currently applies to NCLRs qualified for ancillary services operating with a UFR, specifically RRS UFR, RRS FFR, and ECRS resources with a UFR.
  • ECRS can also be provided by load resources, whether or not they operate with a UFR.
  • Telemetered in real time for self provision of AS.
  • Created in response to market participant concerns to prevent frequent AS reassignments and arming/disarming of UFRs.

▶️2.2 - Self-Arrangement vc Self-Provision

  • Self-arrangement and self-provision are two completely different concepts.
  • Self-arrangement remains unchanged in RTC+B and applies only to the day-ahead market.
  • It allows QSEs with an ancillary service obligation to procure ancillary services (AS) on their own, preventing ERCOT from purchasing AS on their behalf.
  • Self-provision is a new concept that applies solely to the real-time market.
  • It is done through telemetry and aims to reduce reassignments during real-time operations.
  • Self-provision allows QSEs to avoid frequent arming or disarming of their relays.

▶️2.3 - Self-Provision Achieved via Telemetry Points

  • Self-provision is achieved through telemetry points.
  • The information regarding telemetry points is available on the RTC ERCOT webpage as part of the ICCP change request.
  • The setup of telemetry points is essential for RTC+B.
  • The legend in the presentation slide is helpful in understanding the setup.
  • Telemetry points discussed include self-provided RRS UFR, RRS FFR, and self-provided ECRS, which QSEs must set aside their obligation for.
  • Existing ICCP from QSEs, including responsibilities and schedules, will be removed.
  • Resource status changes: Current statuses will be eliminated, except for the red RTC-only resource status.
  • Shift from ancillary service-based telemetry for resource statuses to ONL and OUTL.
  • Key takeaway: Self-provision will be a telemetry-based process.

▶️2.4 - Validation Rules of Self-Provision

  • Validation rules are essential in self-provision.
  • Under-frequency relay must be armed.
  • Load resources are validated against telemeter AS.
  • QSE cannot self-provide more than its total ancillary service position.

▶️2.5 - Self-Provision Scenarios

  • Assumption that all load resources are completely and fully qualified for each entry service.
  • All load resources are expected to have a standard/acceptable offer.
  • ERCOT encourages QSEs to always have an offer during RTC.
  • ECRS awards in scenarios are for ECRS operating with a UFR.
▶️2.5.1 - Scenario 1
  • NCLR holds a 15 megawatt RRS AS position, awarded through 10 megawatts in the DAM and 5 megawatts via RRS trade.
  • Telemetry details include QSE to ERCOT and ERCOT to QSE.
  • Resource must carry 15 megawatts, with net power flow and MPC set at 15 megawatts, and zero LPC.
  • Resource status is set to ONL, and UFR needs to be armed as part of validation rules.
  • Includes self-provided RRS telemetry point and current capability to provide UFR.
  • SCED awards 15 MW, as SCED respects the 15 MW self-provided RRS and capability.
▶️2.5.2 - Scenarios 2 and 3
  • Scenarios 2 and 3 are similar, except NCLR 2 has 25 MW of RRS, 10 MW of ECRS, with no additional room to provide AS.
  • NCLR 2 awards 25 MW of RRS, respecting self-provided amount, and 10 MW for ECRS.
  • Scenario 3: 10 MW RRS, 25 MW ECRS, resource can provide more UFR RRS than self-provided, SCED awards range from 10 MW to 25 MW.
  • Discussion on pricing for self-provided and real-time offers; ERCOT encourages QSEs to have offers in both day-ahead and real-time.
  • Real-time offers have prices associated with them; self-provision viewed as price taker in real-time.
  • Clarification: Day-ahead and real-time markets have distinct prices, and self-provisioning does not automatically get awarded in real-time.
  • Q&A regarding payment settlement if awarded in day-ahead and self-providing in real-time with different prices.
  • Outcome: Paid based on day-ahead price, real-time market serves as an imbalance market.
  • In scenarios where more capability is offered beyond awards, potential to earn additional capacity at real-time pricing.
▶️2.5.3 - Scenario 4
  • QSE 1 is awarded 50 megawatts of RRS.
  • QSE 1 has three load resources with 100 megawatts of capability.
  • Self provided amount cannot exceed QSE total ancillary service obligation.
  • NCLR_4 was awarded 30 megawatts due to headroom and capability limits.
  • NCLR_5 was not awarded RRS as its UFR is disarmed despite showing capability.
  • NCLR_6 self provides 20 megawatts, showing a capability of 30 megawatts.
  • Clarification given on self provision vs self arrangement; both are different.
  • Self provision can be moved in real time to other resources if awarded.
  • NCLR_3 has capability for additional 15 megawatts after self providing ECRS and RRS.
  • Clarification on ECRS obligations affecting the self-provided amount for NCLR_3.
  • Discussion included clarifications on self providing for ECRS related to UFRs.

▶️2.6 - Additional Points

  • ERCOT will not eliminate ECRS provided by load resources that are not controlled by high-set under-frequency relays, but they cannot self-provide.
  • Considering changes to allow non-controllable load resources (NCLRs) to self-provide for non-UFR-enabled ancillary services, including ECRS and non-spin services.
  • These changes will not be implemented in December with the RTC launch and are planned for post-implementation.
  • Feedback from the last DSWG is being considered for these potential changes.
  • Questions can be directed to the ERCOT load resource and SODG email (ERCOTLRandSODG@ercot.com).
  • RTC+B training resources are available on the RTC training webpage.

▶️3 - Q&A

  • Questions about the self-provisioning process, emphasizing the need to ensure telemetry is in alignment when doing self-provisioning.
  • Clarifications on pricing errors and ensuring the correct load resource entries.
  • Discussion about resource scheduling and transition within real time.
  • Clarification on resource prorating during RRS dispatch under self-provision framework.
  • Explanation of megawatt capabilities and price offerings for real-time markets.
  • Discussion about ancillary service offers, HSL, and price-taking levels.
  • Questions about ECRS provisioning without UFR enabled and ensuring day-ahead awards in real time.
  • Concerns about discrepancies in 4CP calculations and request for a discussion to align understanding.
  • Further clarification sought on telemetry and offering block structure, especially regarding capability and HSL.
  • Agreement to follow up on several points and offer detailed examples to resolve discrepancies.
  • Acknowledgment of ongoing meetings and open invitation for further questions or topics to be discussed in future meetings.

 



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